This interview with Andreas Müller is from May 2019, questions by Devasetu.
OnenessTalks with Andreas Müller, recorded in Helsinki, November 30th 2018. 'What is' does not need any realization. 'What is' is not dependent on you seeing it. 'What is' is not dependent on you understanding it. 'What is' is not dependent on you at all – it cannot, because there is no 'you'. In the meetings, the dilemma of the seeking self, the root of all suffering, is discussed and illuminated.
These OnenessTalks with Andreas are from April 2018.
This OnesTalk was given in India in April 2012.
Nowhere to get; no state in the future that is different than THIS; no world, no past, no future – only THIS; the sense of being an individual can appear in THIS; there is only what appears; the perception of being someone can collapse; it can be recognized that THIS is already complete and what has been looked for; the feeling of “me” is just happening but has no meaning either; “me” has no chance to experience oneness - beyond any personal stuff; no doer and no decision maker; oneness is just THIS; time, goals, paths exist only in the realms of an artificial reality; there is no deeper self, there is only what happens; THIS can never be accepted; the perception of being someone exists only as perception of being separate; there is no-one who realizes what is; everything in “your life” was wholeness.
Separation is a perception rather than a mind game or thoughts; there is no such thing as separation; there is only what happens; no energy which wants to deal with what happens; without perception of being someone the feelings do not have strong meanings anymore; there was never any separation; no idea of a journey or wanting to get out of anything; suffering is the consequence of the perception of separation; the apparent awakening does not prevent the awakened from anything; life happens beautifully without person.
This talk was given in India in April 2012.
THIS is it! without perception of being someone it is real and unreal; real and unreal make it complete; experiencing that something is missing; the apparent me is always looking for something but not for THIS; the apparent me is not the “I” thought but an energy including feelings and thoughts; for the me is no hope of getting THIS; the apparent me always believes that it has to do something; there is no person with free will and choice; there is only what appears; THIS is everything and nothing, no essence in it; THIS has no intention and no reason; no structure; the only function of “me” is experiencing itself as “me”; everything goes on without the “me”; the spiritual thing is about gathering stuff for the “me”; the enlightenment thing comes out of the perception of “me”; without the perception of “me” there is just THIS and the whole idea of lacking something collapses; there is no “me” which can fall away; there is only wholeness, there is nothing which can die; there is just “walking out” and perhaps you think that you walk out; all of a sudden there is fulfillment but this fulfillment is for no one, is not a personal experience; but there is nothing lacking anymore.
Beyond states; not trying to give you a state, not trying to teach you anything; there is only wholeness but no need to name it, there is just what is; the talk just happens, no doing; the “me” will never accept THIS; THIS is what happens; so simple and basic and free; beyond the personal things; a dance for the sake of a dance, without reason.
This Interview with Andreas Müller was done by Nikhila in October 2011.
Setup of the oneness talk or Satsang; leading someone to something is impossible; no particular setup; no intention in oneness talks; coming to the meetings happens by itself; the talk comes from the perspective of oneness; limitation of words; no point about being clear or not being clear; no religion of oneness; in hopelessness realizations can happen; oneness is neither an experience nor a thing; searching does not lead anywhere; no-one is on the path; people’s lives seem to change though – slightly; with the shift the story of the person ends.
Practices to make energies flowing through the body are useless concerning oneness; different directions of seeking energy; everything is possible; there already is no-one; not knowing about ethical behaviour of liberated persons; good and bad as projections of the ego, just like the believe there is an ego who does something; Andreas does not feel like being a better person; hardly using words like good or love.
The Timeless Wonder
The timeless wonder only recognises oneness. Only oneness exists. This is everything and nothing; everything that appears, and does not. This radical message out of oneness is a true rarity. It is not directed to somebody, who is striving for personal fulfilment. In fact, it is not directed to anyone at all. This message does not recognise an 'I' that exists separate from the whole and thus does not offer a path nor a method to attain personal happiness. Perfection, oneness is already the case and is only overlooked by the apparently separate 'I'. This energy, apparently manifested in the body and perceiving itself as separate is just another wonderful flavour of the whole. Like everything else it does not have any permanence. It is an appearance.
While the apparent 'I' is constantly looking for the next experience, the timeless wonder, this wonderful perfection, already is. Not to be reached, not to be understood, not to be approached. It is! It is that which the seeker is seeking, but which remains hidden, because of the seekers very existence. Only in the falling away of the seeker, what always is, is found.
The spiritual supermarket offers a large number of possibilities to reach THIS. Mostly there is some kind of path or process attached, one has to follow or go through. There are lots of instructions to follow. Meditate, become more aware, open one's heart, feel one's feelings, dissolve blocks, come into one's middle, go into silence ... the list is infinite and can be compared to a manual for a successful career. Always one step further, one step higher and closer to the goal; of course there are setbacks, too. Sometimes the goal seems to be almost reached, sometimes to be far away endlessly. And that is why the 'I' is, mostly unrecognised and only interrupted by some joyful moments, in constant tension and an only apparently ongoing process of moving towards an apparent future.
All of this has nothing to do with what is being said here. What is - wholeness - cannot be reached by anything, because it already is. Oneness does not need anything to be at one, oneness does not need to be reached or to be recognised in order to be. It simply is! The timeless wonder is! All that appears is This. This cannot be understood by the mind: Wanting to be enlightened is This. To make an excercise to reach fulfilment is This. To mindfuck about not being this is This. Without the filter of the 'I', it is seen clearly: It is THIS! Amazingly beautiful and stunningly perfect and at the same time only that which is. A truely timeless wonder! (Andreas in April 2011)
Last Updated: May 8th 2019