This interview was conducted by Andreas Hegewald alias ANdy with Naho Owada in January 2015. Camera: Andreas Hegewald; translation: Oreas Kotschi.
About the Nonduality Talks of Naho; people believe that they are human beings with free will and that they have a free choice; apparent pain happens because of self-isolated-feeling; life is already complete, as it is, and nothing is missing; separation and life is happening in time and space, but only for human beings; people live their own dream; the person exists only in the dream; time and space appear only in the dream; no one has ever suffered, suffering happens to a person, but the person is an illusion; life appears as individuality; the illusion seems very real; life happens, there is no separation; in fact there is no personal experience, there is only what is happening; life is a paradox; everything happens as it happens, but for no one because the person is an illusion; cause and effect takes time and are part of the dream; when the ego falls away, the personal history comes to an end; love is not personal; when the person who needs something falls away; when there is no question left; when separation occurs, it feels as if something is missing; the story is not wrong, it simple appears; about Nonduality nothing can be said actually, Nonduality is beyond words; the dream feels very real to the person; life cannot be known; only that I want to convince others; about dealing with emotions.
This interview with Naho took place in July 2014 in Belgium. As for cooling several fans were running in the room, the sound quality is unfortunately affected.
About Nonduality, everything is just happening, everything and nothing; through identification with the body separation and underneath unhappy feelings are happening; people are looking for the end of separation; when the me falls away it is realized that everything is love; everything and nothing – only this; in this forms are appearing and disappearing, coming from nothing; everything is made of nothing; suffering because of the feeling of separation; no happiness to find in the story, in time and in space, in which the me lives; people are looking for the end of me; everything is happening by itself; the me cannot find happiness because happiness means the end of me; personal happiness is not to find because there is no me; life is happening by itself; without me there is only love and aliveness; the me does not have any power and control at all; from the story of Naho when there always has been the feeling that something was missing; books from Eckhart Tolle and Tony Parsons; Naho living in Paris; about her talks in Nonduality; it is so obvious, there is only what just appears, also the feelings and the thoughts, they belong to nobody; everything is happening but not to me; the world and life are perfect as they are, there is only love; when there is suffering happening it is also happening to nobody; about the opening of the heart; the difference between pain and suffering; about the differences what is happening in the human brain and in the brains of animals; everything is empty, there is nobody in the body, the end of separation; to call someone a “disciple” it is already a story; about intellectual understanding; love, not directed to objects, empty and full at the same time; the possibility to invite Naho to talks; nothingness cannot be put in words because there is no meaning; in understanding there is no answer; not possible to give any advise; everything is happening by itself; there are no doer in any action or decision; no me necessary for the happening of a decision; no believe that there is somebody in this body; life is just appearing; no me necessary for life to function.
Naho Owada from Tokio now living in Paris.
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